The two wolves expanded is the tale of the two wolves that many of us have most likely heard. We each have two wolves fighting for our soul. A good wolf or a bad wolf or a white wolf and a dark wolf. The question is asked, “which wolf would win the fight?” The answer being, the one that we feed.

In this episode, Birdy O’Sheedy joins Glenn Cooke once again to expand on the tale of the two wolves. Some times we tend to hear the abbreviated versions of great stories. This can and unfortunately often does leave out some of the most valued content which makes more sense.

This is why Birdy was so passionate about the explanation of expanding into the deeper story. Why the two wolves need each other and how we need to feed them both.

The two wolves expanded may give you a better understanding of the importance of a balanced life rather than just one or the other. Can you think of times where you have needed mix of opposites to balance out a situation in your life?

Glenn can be found changing the world at Canine evolution

To get more Birdy goodness, find her at Paws in life

Pat is making magic at Operant canine


Get comfortable saying No. Sounds pretty easy right? Well according to therapists it’s quite a challenge for some people to do. They get nervous, they are overwhelmed with emotions and thoughts, it’s really quite, uncomfortable.

So how do we bite the bullet and do it? Fortunately we have Birdie O’Sheedy on the show today to discuss this very topic

Many people find it ok and are comfortable not saying yes, however they still avoid saying the word, no.

Do people feel they will be rejected? Is it something they struggled with during adolescence? Do they feel rewarded by avoiding the word?

On the other side, what happens to us when we avoid saying words like no? How does it effect us and our behaviour long term? This is why we discuss that people need to get comfortable saying NO.

We also get to find out during the show that Birdy, Narelle and Glenn are planning on running seminars. Focusing on the body, mind and behaviour of dogs and owners. This can bring about more pleasure in owning and keeping a dog in the home.

Birdy can be contacted here for dogs and here for humans

Glenn is found in these parts. Canine evolution

Pat is located at Operant Canine

Dropping your anchor is not what we thought it was. Lets go back in time to find out the origin in the nice meaning

Bart Bellon on remote trainers is a story about Bart and Michael Bellon and their development of the Chameleon. The Bellon’s were involved in the early concept of remote trainers with Charles Martin and then bought the company.

Bart goes on to explain what the difference is with a Martin systems compared to other models on the market.

As many of you already know, The Canine Paradigm doesn’t shy away from talking about everything. We don’t condone stupid training or animal cruelty, even though some view remote trainers in this light.

Many feel it’s important to have an open mind, open heart approach to training. We also feel that knowing all side of the story makes the story complete.

For us, we felt it important to have Bart Bellon on remote trainers as he is one of the world authorities. Inventor and user for people in our industry, he and Michael have a sound idea on the application and design.

We know that some people will always have an opinion based in fear and in grape vine stories. We only recommend that real investigation with industry professionals at least be explored.

Glenn Cooke can be contacted at Canine Evolution

Pat Stuart owns and operates Operant Canine

From one legendary trainer to another

Customer expectations can be varied. What we mean by that is that some customers have reasonable views and others, well they don’t.

Some have an expectation, however they fail to maintain the most simplistic obligation.

We all find this frustrating. Anyone in any industry does when you know that the only way results will be maintained or improved is with cooperation.

The expectations of customers can be over the top, unachievable and bizarre. The only time it’s a problem is when you or any industry professional allows the belief to continue.

If they are consulted well at the start and in easy to digest writing, both parties have clarity.

If you were not clear and elusive just to get the sale, you leave yourself open to being challenged. The reason why is because you did not meet your customer expectations.

Sometimes just when you think you have a handle on it, along comes the next customer. It’s not always easy to get a read on people but you need to try your best.

Speak clearly, with honesty and integrity. Listen when you need to and do what you can to help.

Glenn Cooke is at Canine Evolution

Pat Stuart is at Operant Canine

A gateway drug into our podcast show.

Getting to the point with askholes is really based on two separate points that we cleverly combined for the title. So how did we come up with concept? Jordan Peterson, our close personal friend was in town discussing his book, The 12 Rules for life. During his talk, he focused on rule 10, Be precise in your speech. Of the several topics, Jordan told the crowd how we often tell stories but fail to get to the point.

Not getting to the point can be frustrating. Like watching a movie that has no plot and it leaves you asking questions at the end.

Want to know what’s more frustrating? Askholes. An askhole is someone that asks for your advise and then does the opposite.

They also ask everyone else in town too while they continue to ignore their advise or worse, messing it up.

Not getting to the point and being an askhole each have their frustrations.

Want to get in touch with Pat? Operant Canine

Need to reach out to Glenn? Canine Evolution

Enjoy an episode with industry legend, Mike Suttle

Interviewing Pat Nolan was a great honour for us as it is with all our guests. It always adds to the polish when you have someone who is considered a cornerstone in our industry. Pat Nolan is a name deeply connected to the canine industry mainly through his long career in gun dogs.

Now when people think of Pat, they consider the early work he contributed to our modern day scent work.

This was one of the many interesting points of discussion we had in this podcast. starting with puppy imprinting and moving into the career of a working dog.

Many of the great operators in this industry have gained their ideas from people like Pat Nolan.

For further information on Pat Nolan, go here

To know more about Pat Stuart here’s a link

Glenn Cooke’s details can be seen here

The Flow State is a great place to be in for any trainer and their dog

Interviewing Dallas Burkevics was something we have both wanted to do for quite some time. The reason for this is that Dallas has been a long serving rescue organiser, with a wealth of experience.

Many people don’t know and don’t understand how much effort people in rescue go to. The time, energy and effort required is like planning a rock concert.

The other major point behind the rescue fence is that these people deal with the dogs many people discard like trash. They welcome them into their own homes, have those same home destroyed and then do it again.

They work full time jobs, have families, no social life because they are organising these very same dogs. People like Dallas Burkevics have hearts of gold, however it plays havoc in their lives at times.

But if someone doesn’t rise up to take on the overflow of discarded dogs, what happens to them? The men and women, mainly women, in the rescue organisations need our help and support.

They need funds and donations to pay for their bills. They make no money from this themselves. It costs them money to do it.

It was our great pleasure to be Interviewing Dallas Burkevics and we hope that it helps raise some much needed awareness.

More information about Dallas can be found here

Would you like to help their rescue organisation? Go Here

Want to find out about Glenn Cooke? Canine Evolution

Looking for more on Pat Stuart? Operant Canine

This is a good help resource for people in the industry

Tyler Muto Round 2. If you remember last time we had Tyler on out show, like many of guests, he got to tell us his origins. If you don’t recall his original interview, go here

Now he’s back and we get down to chatting about some odd trends.

People are bragging about how they don’t train their dogs to be obedient. Some of the the points may sound quite silly, however we go into detail with Tyler to discuss various meanings behind the claim.

Tyler is a very well educated guy and he is highly intellectual and very pragmatic. Having just finished his term as president for the IACP, Tyler is now focusing his energies on his next project, Consider the Dog.

Apart from all his accomplishments, Tyler is an all round good guy, a great ambassador for training, defender of the balanced community and one of our close personal friends.

We really enjoyed having Round 2 with Tyler Muto and we are looking forward to round 3.

Hopefully you enjoyed it as much as we did.

By the way, if you made the time to read this and you still love our show, you can support us on Patreon. Here’s the link

Here’s some links to Tyler Muto

K9 Connection
Consider the dog

For information about Pat check out Operant Canine

Glenn Cooke can be found at Canine Evolution

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Mike Suttle is one of the worlds canine industries legends. When it comes to working canine selection, bite development and scent work, Mike is a serious contender.

Living in West Virginia, Mike has an impressive property where he conducts all forms of training.

Mike’s kennel name, Logan haus has built a reputation of providing high end dogs for serious operators. These dogs are deployed around the world and are used as multi purpose law enforcers and miltary operations.

Mike and his partner Megan have been travelling around their homeland conducting training on demand for various purposes.

We have had the very good fortune of having Mike share his wisdom in Australia several times. We always look forward to seeing him return because there is so much to learn.

There are dozens of Youtube clips of Mike suttle and his amazing work in scent, bite work and even chicken training. You can check out his website for even more educational gems.

Want to learn more about Mike Suttle, click here

Need to know about Glenn Cooke click here

Desire to know about Pat Stuart click here

Check out another Industry legend when you’re done listening to Mike

The flow state is a comfortable state that lies right between boredom and anxiety. We know when we are in a state of flow when we get to the other side with ease. Time felt like it just zoomed on past us. This is not only a dog training lifestyle, it’s a lifestyle.

If you can adapt a flow state into you work, you hobby, your workout times and more, you will feel less anxious and more fulfilled. This is why people practice a little bit every day when they want to see improvement and growth.

Rather than just cramming and feeling over worked, they focus on easy and enjoyable increments. Just enough to push through barriers but not enough to feel overwhelmed. Every day a little more. just focusing on the objective.

Most people who have hobbies understand this state of being as they are doing something they enjoy without the stress.

Hopefully you are in flow state with your training.

Want to know more about Glenn? Go Here

Want to know more about Pat? Go Here

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