Asked to leave a dog club may not be the same as being kicked out of a dog club. Sometimes it feels like the same thing, however their may be valid reasons why the club cannot except you. They may be full, you may not be suitable or your dog may not be suitable or it could be conflict.

Not all clubs are the same though. Some are very transparent, some are deceptive. Many are run by dedicated and hard working people, some are run by people who are small in many ways other than their ego.

Groucho Marx once stated that he wouldn’t want to be a member of any club that excepted him as a member. Sometimes it’s best to avoid clubs with problematic people. This will prevent you having to be asked to leave a dog club without knowing why.

Not all people who apply for membership have an immediate right in many clubs. Many agree that this is often a good thing as some people who want to join may have silly agendas too. Therefore it may not be the club but the individual who is a wrong fit.

In any event, some times it’s best to move one rather than force the issue of being kicked out of a dog club. It may also encourage you to start your own and recruit your own suitable members.

Pat can tell you about PSA at operant Canine

Glenn is manning the helm at Canine Evolution

Difficult people can be all around us. you could be one of them

The two wolves expanded is the tale of the two wolves that many of us have most likely heard. We each have two wolves fighting for our soul. A good wolf or a bad wolf or a white wolf and a dark wolf. The question is asked, “which wolf would win the fight?” The answer being, the one that we feed.

In this episode, Birdy O’Sheedy joins Glenn Cooke once again to expand on the tale of the two wolves. Some times we tend to hear the abbreviated versions of great stories. This can and unfortunately often does leave out some of the most valued content which makes more sense.

This is why Birdy was so passionate about the explanation of expanding into the deeper story. Why the two wolves need each other and how we need to feed them both.

The two wolves expanded may give you a better understanding of the importance of a balanced life rather than just one or the other. Can you think of times where you have needed mix of opposites to balance out a situation in your life?

Glenn can be found changing the world at Canine evolution

To get more Birdy goodness, find her at Paws in life

Pat is making magic at Operant canine


Interviewing Pat Nolan was a great honour for us as it is with all our guests. It always adds to the polish when you have someone who is considered a cornerstone in our industry. Pat Nolan is a name deeply connected to the canine industry mainly through his long career in gun dogs.

Now when people think of Pat, they consider the early work he contributed to our modern day scent work.

This was one of the many interesting points of discussion we had in this podcast. starting with puppy imprinting and moving into the career of a working dog.

Many of the great operators in this industry have gained their ideas from people like Pat Nolan.

For further information on Pat Nolan, go here

To know more about Pat Stuart here’s a link

Glenn Cooke’s details can be seen here

The Flow State is a great place to be in for any trainer and their dog

Mike Suttle is one of the worlds canine industries legends. When it comes to working canine selection, bite development and scent work, Mike is a serious contender.

Living in West Virginia, Mike has an impressive property where he conducts all forms of training.

Mike’s kennel name, Logan haus has built a reputation of providing high end dogs for serious operators. These dogs are deployed around the world and are used as multi purpose law enforcers and miltary operations.

Mike and his partner Megan have been travelling around their homeland conducting training on demand for various purposes.

We have had the very good fortune of having Mike share his wisdom in Australia several times. We always look forward to seeing him return because there is so much to learn.

There are dozens of Youtube clips of Mike suttle and his amazing work in scent, bite work and even chicken training. You can check out his website for even more educational gems.

Want to learn more about Mike Suttle, click here

Need to know about Glenn Cooke click here

Desire to know about Pat Stuart click here

Check out another Industry legend when you’re done listening to Mike

Nicky Butler is a UK based dog trainer that grabbed ours and many others attention from a social media video. The video message highlighted what many of us have been thinking for quite some time. The nice thing was that Nicky took time to sit for a while and consider the content.

The message conveys a simple fact often overlooked. we all love dogs. All of us! However, there’s often controversy about who’s doing it right and the politics hijack the main objectives.

We all need to be more thoughtful about this topic. We need to think about how much time is actually worth arguing about it compared to getting on with work. Cherry picked, pseudo science and wounded emotions should never be used as ammunition in any basis.

There is a wise saying that suggests that the left wing and the right wing belong to the same bird. Flight is not possible when one is independent of the other.

Interviewing Nicky Butler gave us a bit more insight into how people in other countries are feeling. It also describes the ethos of the individuals and the community.

Like to know more about Nicky go here

Want to know more about Pat, go here

If you would like to know more about Glenn, go here

Another good episode on helping people with Ego issues

Drop your anchor is the title by our adopted show co-host Birdy O’Sheedy. For those of you joining us, Birdy is a clinical psychologist who additionally coaches people on living better with dogs.

Birdy has two business’s with the same name but a clever different meaning. Pause in life for her human work and Paws in life for her human / pet work.

The title drop your anchor is about teaching us to stand up tall, dig your heels in.

Glenn and Pat thought it had a different meaning and in some references it does, but not the one Birdy uses.

Anyone having a hard time developing a relationship with their dog would benefit immensely from speaking with Birdy. She has a very pragmatic approach to her work and is constantly looking at improving her own knowledge and understanding.

Want to know more about Birdy. Go here

Want to know more about Pat. Go hereh

Want to know more about Glenn Go here

Check out some of our other episode

Start the year with a plan. Start everything with a plan or at least try to. That way you get to do what you need to do by design, rather than just wing it.

There’s a saying that says, “plan your work, then work your plan”. Glenn thought it may have been Vince Lombardi, American football super coach and philosopher, however it was Napoleon Hill. There’s even another variation stated by Margaret Thatcher, former British Prime Minister.

The episode at large is about people making New Years resolutions. We’re suggesting that it should be a year round resolution by being a little bit better that yesterday.

We found that by being incremental and not over doing it, learning takes on a better function overall.

Start your 2019 year off by, continuing the good work you did in 2018 and not having too high expectations. So, start your year with a plan and how can you go wrong?

If you want to get in touch with Glenn you can go here
If you want to get in touch with Pat you can go here

Michael Ellis is a name known very well to many of the people in the dog training community.  If you have been on youtube or Leerburg looking for a trainer series, you would no doubt come across Michael’s work.

Both Glenn and Pat have been waiting for some time now to speak with Michael and we had our prayers answered

Apart from being an all round great guy, Michael has been teaching students all over the world.

If you too would like to train with Michael Ellis or learn more about him, you can find out more here

Positive First is a descriptive term Glenn Cooke announced earlier in one of our episodes.  He feels better describes what the Balanced dog training community have been trying to represent.

Naturally, there are counter arguments that it doesn’t represent the industry based on the correct scientific terms. There was additional points that it could be perceived as to closely associated with positive only.

Glenn and Pat start to unpack the success of starting with positive reinforcement and then re assessing.  This way if you start positive and can remain within that system of training, there is no problem.  If you need to move along to adding aversive, then you can implement the LIMA system.

If you have never heard of LIMA, it is the acronym for, Least Invasive Minimally Aversive.  it does a very nice job of describing a better selection pathway for training when using the Operant system.

Moments to be proud of was a hard episode for both of us to record.  For Pat it was difficult to relive something that caused a lot of raw emotion.  For Glenn it was a high degree of shock to hear the story.

This story unfolds around a young boy and his mum that Pat helped train an assistance dog.  Although it sounds simple enough, it came with some heavy baggage for everyone.

The story is still far from finished, however there have been some incredible breakthroughs, both via a mothers love and Pats persistence and compassion.

Mental illness is a serious issue that has serious implications requiring the right people for treatment.  It also carries a stigma as people don’t know how to behave or what to say.  The best thing you can do though is be supportive and not judgemental.  Learn more about it and how you can better help.

We have done several episode now on mental health and we will definitely do more in the future for both humans and dogs.  This is why having a contact like Birdy O’Sheedy is so helpful and healthy as she understand both fields.

If you don’t feel great and the world is getting difficult, speak to someone.  You’re not a burden.  You’re not invalid.  You have people that love you and people that do want to be supportive.

We would love to hear what you moments to be proud of are too.

We have several episode as suggested that would be worth listening to, to support the above.

Episode 53: A Birdy’s eye view on Anxiety